Curse

Cirque · Nov 08, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

For the longest time in TA the setup of Warrior Necro Ranger Monk has been dominant. However, no good thing can last forever. Team Arenas is currently going through rapid changes, and has entered what I like to call a "golden era."

There is one main reason for this: Warriors Endurance. A single warriors endurance warrior can rip this setup to shreds. The necro stares in awe while the monk struggles to keep up with ridiculous amounts of armor ignoring attacks. Warriors shatter as if they were glass, and the build crumbles to the dust almost before 30 seconds every time.

Please discuss this death of the balanced build. What can we do against this scourge of destruction brought on by warriors endurance? The only counter to this incredible death machine is the Soul Bind, Visions Mesmer, R/P setup. This effectively shuts down the warriors and causes it to kill itself, giving you a small chance of winning once the warrior is dead.

Reflected. · Nov 08, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56

I completely agree with your argument. Throughout my TA experiences, the synergy of a Warrior's Endurance warrior and an Expert's Dexterity ranger have just blown through the standard balance setup. What can we do now? What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial. With this death of balance, we cannot even play Team Arenas anymore. There is no other build that can compare. It is quite a sad day

Ec]-[oMaN · Nov 08, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

Bleh TA. 2008 shitter TA meta, always was bad, this is just a highlight. GvG can almost be summed up with the same garbage but you have maybe 1-2 more varients.

Symbol · Nov 08, 2008, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Reflected.

I completely agree with your argument. Throughout my TA experiences, the synergy of a Warrior's Endurance warrior and an Expert's Dexterity ranger have just blown through the standard balance setup. What can we do now? What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial. With this death of balance, we cannot even play Team Arenas anymore. There is no other build that can compare. It is quite a sad day

Lol. Well played sir.

Samscwamch · Nov 08, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Reflected.

I completely agree with your argument. Throughout my TA experiences, the synergy of a Warrior's Endurance warrior and an Expert's Dexterity ranger have just blown through the standard balance setup. What can we do now? What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial. With this death of balance, we cannot even play Team Arenas anymore. There is no other build that can compare. It is quite a sad day

....You win this round...

AKB48 · Nov 08, 2008, 04:26 AM // 04:26

People are lazy with the standard w-kd, necro-wail, ranger-dshot spam, monk-heal. They can't think of anything new(or rather, they REJECT anything new and doesn't look "meta"), which really takes half of the fun out of pvp: when your new build KOed some old meta, it feels good, and metas are, afterall, made by real live people. So this whole over relance on the metas are what really kills the pvp besides the screwed up rules Anet imposed.

Thank God we got a count-down timer in TA eh?

sLiceR · Nov 08, 2008, 09:25 AM // 09:25

shield bash power attack, oh baby

urania · Nov 08, 2008, 09:33 AM // 09:33

Hi Cirqey!

Cirque · Nov 08, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

Could we please keep this thread on topic Karla. This is a very serious issue that requires very serious discussion, save your greetings for PMs ok?

Hundbert · Nov 08, 2008, 11:30 AM // 11:30

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What can we do now? What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial.

I don't know if you guys are beeing serious or not with these kinda posts

We war + ed ranger are a dangerous combo indeed and completely owns anything in ta.
I'm actually surprised not so many are (ab)using this yet.
From our runs in [DnF] these past days it was still 95% normal balanced teams with hammer war and corrupt nec and what not.

Sun Fired Blank · Nov 08, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

I would like to inform you that I am suing you for intellectual property infringement. Specifically:

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What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial.

You may settle for 500 z-keys, k?

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We war + ed ranger are a dangerous combo indeed and completely owns anything in ta.

And yet I can assume that DnF will not run this dishonorable combination without spiking warriors? And if you do, will you be running Warrior's Endurance with a hammer, or will you just run an Earth Shaker and lineback the warrior allllllllllllllllll dayyyyyyyyyyy loooooonnnnngggggggggggg while your necro wails the monk until FINALLY your ranger headshots something crucial?

Foe · Nov 09, 2008, 08:15 AM // 08:15

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Originally Posted by Reflected.

I completely agree with your argument. Throughout my TA experiences, the synergy of a Warrior's Endurance warrior and an Expert's Dexterity ranger have just blown through the standard balance setup. What can we do now? What will we do without our hammer warriors endlessly linebacking each other while our necro's wail each other's monk until FINAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLY your ranger dshots something crucial. With this death of balance, we cannot even play Team Arenas anymore. There is no other build that can compare. It is quite a sad day

You guys are both stupid, ED got nerfed Ref, learn 2 read? lol at people who cant give up their "leet" builds. YOUR NEW R TEMPLATE?

Its funny how these gvg elites come into ta and get owned and then cry. TA always has had the stronger players and these guys just cant deal with it.

You guys know what im saying.

urania · Nov 09, 2008, 10:56 AM // 10:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hundbert

I don't know if you guys are beeing serious or not with these kinda posts

We war + ed ranger are a dangerous combo indeed and completely owns anything in ta.
I'm actually surprised not so many are (ab)using this yet.
From our runs in [DnF] these past days it was still 95% normal balanced teams with hammer war and corrupt nec and what not.

TA balanced is serious business, ktx

moko · Nov 09, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hundbert

I don't know if you guys are beeing serious or not with these kinda posts

We war + ed ranger are a dangerous combo indeed and completely owns anything in ta.
I'm actually surprised not so many are (ab)using this yet.
From our runs in [DnF] these past days it was still 95% normal balanced teams with hammer war and corrupt nec and what not.

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steel singer · Nov 09, 2008, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hundbert

I don't know if you guys are beeing serious or not with these kinda posts

We war + ed ranger are a dangerous combo indeed and completely owns anything in ta.
I'm actually surprised not so many are (ab)using this yet.
From our runs in [DnF] these past days it was still 95% normal balanced teams with hammer war and corrupt nec and what not.

Only to bad that lindeman runs that to with zhed playing ED ranger!

Animate · Nov 27, 2008, 05:54 AM // 05:54

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Originally Posted by Cirque

For the longest time in TA the setup of Warrior Necro Ranger Monk has been dominant. However, no good thing can last forever.

Oh no! The good "W,R,N,Mo"-people need to think of something new since a loooooooooooooooongest time?! That is indeed a serious matter.
Maybe then, now it would be appropriate to change a few skills or even a profession to adapt to the new situation? :O :x
Or go to Izzys wiki page, complain that warriors endurance is more overpowered than magehunters smash and ff.

mrmango · Nov 27, 2008, 06:20 AM // 06:20

TA can't have balanced. I've read countless QQ threads about TA. GW isn't geared towards 4-man arenas because of skills like WoD and anything that spikes.
W, R, N, Mo isn't balanced imo.

urania · Nov 27, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

so ive heard sarcasm is hard to spot on online forums..

PyrAnkh · Nov 27, 2008, 11:05 AM // 11:05

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Originally Posted by mrmango

TA can't have balanced. I've read countless QQ threads about TA. GW isn't geared towards 4-man arenas because of skills like WoD and anything that spikes.
W, R, N, Mo isn't balanced imo.

Imo balanced = a build that can deal with/has tools for the majority of other builds around.

So it IS balanced.

Forgotton200 · Nov 28, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Another "warrior's endurance is too powerful" thread.

I agree.